You keep using that word...

"Ash78, voting early and often" (ash78) 06/24/2017 at 12:17 • Filed to: None

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Nissan Leaf parked in a lot in a place with over 95% coal-fired electrical generation. Maybe it should say “Zero Direct Emissions” or “Acid Rain is a Myth” or something like that. Maybe “NIMBY Emissions.”

Just a pet peeve of mine with the electric crowd.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:24

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Well, it does have zero emissions itself. That just means your area needs to get its act together.

WilliamsSW > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:24

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But it gives them plausible deniability!

Frenchlicker > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:30

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Compared to a standard car is does have Zero Emissions.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:30

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Subaru is arguably worse: “Partially Zero Emissions Vehicle.” There’s no such thing as partially zero... There’s zero, and non-zero.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 06/24/2017 at 12:34

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Really all vehicles are partially zero emissions, because they don’t create any when they’re off.

Alfalfa > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:37

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I’ve never been a vanity plate guy, but if I ever own an EV I am 100% getting a plate that says “rolling coal”.

Alfalfa > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 06/24/2017 at 12:40

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This one drives me nuts. And it’s not just Subaru. Honda, Ford, Hyundai, and VW(lol) also have cars sporting the badge.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 06/24/2017 at 12:42

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The PZEV designation indicates it doesn’t leak any emissions such as gas fumes from the filler neck.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 06/24/2017 at 12:45

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BRILLIANT

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 06/24/2017 at 12:46

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DLAEAGFFTFN would be more honest than PZEV!

dogisbadob > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 06/24/2017 at 12:46

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A C is a partial zero :p

dogisbadob > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:47

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And all cars from the past 20 years are essentially zero-emitting, except for certain cheat box diesels

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 06/24/2017 at 12:47

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That’s the entire idea behind PZEV, that they don’t produce emissions when they are off. A lot of cars will leak fuel vapors and other gasses when they are off.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 12:53

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I refer to them as REVS - remote emissions vehicles.

hike > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 06/24/2017 at 13:03

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Interestingly, that just means zero evaporative emissions from the fuel system. It also requires like a 15 year warranty on emissions parts

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 13:11

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Yeah unless they charge it off PV at their house, or wind... yeah I hate the smug Tesla people here in the bay area with plates that say that shit.

fintail > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 13:28

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It’s a very clean coal powered power plant.

Tekamul > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 13:48

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What place is 95% coal powered? West Virginia?

Berang > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 15:46

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Should Nissan alter the badge according to what area the car is charged in?

xc90v8/I4 :( > Ash78, voting early and often 06/24/2017 at 18:31

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Where I live there a supermarket chain that wants to be “CO2 neutral” by 2020 or something. Think they’re gonna buy a couple of billion trees or something... but the trees would be there anyway what’s the point

Nauraushaun > Ash78, voting early and often 06/25/2017 at 09:01

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It’s a pet peeve of mine that this peeves some people! The cars getting to zero is a good step. Then the onus shifts to the rest of the production line. If we never made any of it better because we can’t fix everything at once, we’d get nowhere.

Of course, fixing the supply chain is less visible than fixing the car itself. Yet it still impacts the price of the car. People don’t want to pay for that.

wkiernan > Ash78, voting early and often 07/08/2017 at 19:13

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I should put one of those on the front fender of my car, and if someone asks I can say “But the exhaust pipe is in the back; that only applies to the front of the car, which emits zero emissions.”

Robert Belvin > Ash78, voting early and often 07/22/2017 at 00:29

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Electric cars are for [REDACTED]. I like to burn something when I drive